On his radio program yesterday, Steve Deace welcomed Bryan Fischer for a long discussion about Fischer’s recent column arguing that “homosexuality is not a conservative value.”
Facetiously declaring that “haters of a feather stick together,” Deace brought Fischer to try and explain why the Republican Party seemed so intent on embracing the issue of homosexuality at the expense of the support of Christian conservatives. Fischer warned that if the GOP continued along this path, it was going to spell the end of the Republican Party while Deace simply could not understand why Republicans would be “catering to the homosexual lobby, which is a major fundraising arm for Democrats across the country”:
Deace: The GOP is going to have to make a decision here: are they going to stick with those traditions that past conservative stalwarts like Russell Kirk, those laws of natures and nature’s God that you just heard Bryan reference, or are they going to embrace the new morality? And what happens Bryan if they make the wrong choice?
Fischer: Well, I think it will be the end of the Republican Party. You know, the evangelical community still provides the core of the Republican Party base, they’re the ones who are most motivated to go to the polls and they’ll just abandon the Republican Party …
Deace: You can even simplify it on a more base level which is why would you want to aid and abet and fund the people who are funding the folks you are running against? Why would you want to do that? Why do we aid and abet and enable the homosexual movement? I mean, can you imagine if [Jeff] Sessions and [John] Cornyn said ‘we’re going to have a fundraiser with AFSCME about how we can raise money to help the Republican Party.” There would be howls of protest, Bryan, across the fruited plain from every vestige of the right-of-center coalition in this country. Well, that’s the exact same thing they’re doing by catering to the homosexual lobby which is a major fundraising arm for Democrats across the country.
Deace and Fischer also claimed that GOP needs to take a stand against homosexuality in particular, because gay activists are systematically forcing society to accept their immoral behavior while refusing to even admit that it is a sin:
Fischer: You know, the reality is Steve, if homosexuals were willing to keep this in the privacy of their own bedrooms, we wouldn’t even be having this conversation. They’re the ones that are bringing it out of the bedroom, they’re bringing it into our streets, they are demanding and insisting that we recognize this behavior, that we normalize it, that we endorse it, that we approve of it. So they’re really the ones that are dragging it out of the bedroom and making it an issue in the public square and, you know, we have to respond to that.
Deace: I think what you just said is very important because I get asked this sometimes by Christians, hey I agree that this is a sin, but why is this different than other sins? Why do we make such a big deal out of this publicly? And the point that I make to them is, listen, they’re isn’t a group of fornicators out there saying we’ve got to change the laws of marriage, the accreditation laws for counselors, the way in the curriculum that your kids are taught in school in order to teach them, hey, that it’s okay for me to be a serial fornicator or a serial adulterer and we’re actually going to teach them how to do that better. I mean, we’re looking here at an immoral behavior with its own political lobby and they’re the ones that are driving this debate, we’re simply reacting to it.
Fischer: Well, and you look at this issue of sin; people say ‘well, homosexuality is a sin like every other sin’ and there’s a point to that. But the problem is people right now that are homosexual activists that are engaging in this kind of behavior, they’re denying that it is a sin at all. You know, they;’re saying that it is perfectly normal, that it’s healthy behavior; they reject the analysis that there is something morally deficient about that behavior whatsoever. You know, most adulterers say “yeah, that wasn’t too cool what I did there,” but homosexual activists say “no, what we’re doing is just fine and not only just fine, we’re going to insist that you approve of what we do.”
