LaBarbera: Tammy Baldwin's Election and 'Glee' are Signs that America is 'Falling Apart'

Talk show host Janet Mefferd invited Peter LaBarbera of Americans for Truth about Homosexuality onto her program on Friday to mourn the recent string of electoral victories of openly gay candidates and gay rights measures. While we continued to hear over and over again from conservatives that President Obama’s endorsement of marriage equality greatly undermined his support among minority voters, it turned out that Obama performed just as well—if not better—among minorities. Now, Mefferd and LaBarbera wondered if millions of more white voters would have turned out if only the Romney campaign had promoted his anti-gay stances more vigorously.

Mefferd: Seven million white voters stayed home, everything was about this minority group and we should’ve been more pro-amnesty etcetera, and there was a lot of discussion about how the GOP needs to be for amnesty now, needs to do this and that to reach the particular Latino group or what have you, and in fact you wonder how many of those white voters who stayed home actually would’ve come out if they would’ve had a candidate who had a backbone on issues that are culturally important to them.

LaBarbera: Let’s talk about the homosexual issue Janet, of course Romney barely, I don’t know in the general election, was it raised at all?

Mefferd: No.

LaBarbera said that he will pray that Senator-elect “Tammy Baldwin leaves the lesbian lifestyle as so many women have,” and lashed out at the media’s treatment of officials like Baldwin as historic milestones, wondering if the media would have similar reports on the “first alcoholic” to win an election. He went on to rail against the Huffington Post for “celebrating homosexuality” and claimed that “homosexuality and abortion” are now “the sacraments of liberalism.” “That’s what it’s all about for liberals now and it’s just so sad to see, especially with Obama’s triumph, it’s sad to see that this won in America,” LaBarbera lamented. “America it seems is just falling apart right before our eyes.”

LaBarbera: We’re talking about a sin movement here. Would we be ticking off any other collective group of public representatives who had another sin problem: ‘Say Janet boy did you hear the first alcoholic just got elected in Colorado’? It’s preposterous, the whole movement is preposterous, and we got to retain our thinking as Christians. This is not an achievement. Homosexuality is a problem and the good news is people can overcome it. I hope and pray that one day Tammy Baldwin leaves the lesbian lifestyle as so many women have. The big achievement decades ago was to acknowledge homosexuality as some kind of minority, it’s not really a minority, it’s about behavior and behavior that can be changed. I’m sorry to offend the homosexual lobby but that’s what it is to us. This is not a great achievement and it’s nothing to be proud of.

Mefferd: They are really crowing though. I can’t even count how many stories I saw on the Huffington Post where they were just jumping for joy, how exciting this is. The other issue that came up were these four marriage amendments—

LaBarbera: By the way Janet, that’s the same Huffington Post which I believe in today’s Huffington Post about how Abraham Lincoln might’ve been gay. The Huffington Post is now celebrating homosexuality, they can’t get enough of it, they have a whole section called “Gay Voices” which is all about homosexuality. This has become one of the sacraments of liberalism: homosexuality and abortion, we should add to that maybe promiscuity for heterosexuals. That’s what it’s all about for liberals now and it’s just so sad to see, especially with Obama’s triumph, it’s sad to see that this won in America. America it seems is just falling apart right before our eyes.

Mefferd: I agree.

Later in the show, Mefferd called the gains of the gay rights movement a “rejection of God” while LaBarbera appeared nostalgic for the days when states had anti-sodomy laws on the books. He said that the legalization of same-sex marriage will turn the government into “a promoter of evil” and make homosexuality more “popular,” just as Roe v. Wade supposedly increased the abortion rate (actually, abortion rates are higher in countries where it is illegal).

He even said that the kiss between two gay characters on “Glee” was a sign that America is in “big, big trouble.” “When you saw two teenage boys in a romantic set-up kiss, making out, during primetime TV and it didn’t engender mass outrage among Americans, you know we are pretty far gone,” LaBarbera said.

Mefferd: What we’re really seeing here is the unfolding of the attack against God’s authority and God’s creation, and I think for that reason it’s really a much bigger fight than just what we’re saying , it’s not just even about homosexuality, it’s about a view of God and a rejection of God and how He has created this world to operate.

LaBarbera: The fact is a lot of Americans don’t care about God anymore, they don’t care about what God thinks about this issue or other issues. I think it is much deeper, when government goes from dissuading people from committing a sin, that’s why we had sodomy laws in all the states, anti-sodomy laws, until 1961 I believe, maybe I have that wrong, but the point is we used to discourage sin. Now when you turn it around and government actually promotes sin and ultimately homosexual so-called marriage, that’s the ultimate promotion of what God calls detestable behavior as even noble, there are a lot of repercussions when government changes complete opposite and becomes a promoter of evil and a promoter of sin and that’s what we’re seeing. It’s the same with abortion, look at how many more abortions happened because it became legalized, so many millions of babies would not have been killed had the law not made it popular. I’m afraid we’re going to see that happen with homosexuality as well.

Mefferd: I don’t know if you heard John MacArthur’s great sermon on this but he was talking about how now we have a party in the United States that has the sins of Romans 1 as its party platform. It’s stunning in our lifetimes to see something that egregious going on.

LaBarbera: Yes and the homosexual movement if you look back, it is fascinating how it was marketed. I don’t know if it was last year or the year before with the “Glee” kiss. That showed me that America was in big, big trouble. I think we are probably ten years behind understanding how bad it really is. When you saw two teenage boys in a romantic set-up kiss, making out, during primetime TV and it didn’t engender mass outrage among Americans, you know we are pretty far gone. Nobody wants to talk about what happens when you practice homosexuality, all the higher rates of disease, especially for men who have sex with men, these are statistics you can get by just going to the CDC website, obviously it’s a very dangerous and immoral behavior.